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| Cookie | Posted - 15 June 2003 3:26
It is so hard for me to get myself to daven! Even when i have time, i'll find s/t else to do or push it off. sometimes i'll have an excuse, like doing another mitzva. davening takes so long and i get exhausted. also it's so hard to have kavana, i don't even know how. maybe b/c i think my tefillos are inefective. i know there is nothing to do but daven!but i wanted to here what any of you have to say. |
| bruriaheww | Posted - 17 June 2003 3:35
i know i feel exactly like you do, but when i actually do make time and daven after i davened i feel sooo much better! even though i know that i didnt have a lot of kavanah and stuff ( my kavanah is horrible, if neoe has tips ill take them) I know that its ebtter to daven a little then to daven nothing at all. A person recently just told me when i asked if it makes a difference if i daven without kavanah b/c then hashem wont care, she said that hashem of course cares and everything, and u should keep davening, you should WoRK on it and stuff, then went u get better and better and stuff then hashem accepts all the tefilot and its like they were all full of kavanah!! I hope i got this right (shmatta???) I thought it was pretty cool. Even though now that i have finals and i dont have a set minchah time i dont daven usually that tefillah i know i should. Im going to camp in 2 weeks and im not going to have a set time to daven, so i know im going to need to work on it. I know its the right thing to do, so just keep davening! I dont know if this makes sense, so ya! |
| pancake | Posted - 17 June 2003 8:08
Of course Hashem is listening to your tefillos and they do count. Hashem listend and saved Menashe, the then rashah gamor, when he davened to Him, eventhough he davened to all the other avodah zarahs first. kal Vechomer... |
| bjgirl86 | Posted - 17 June 2003 8:10
i daven every day in school, but when im at home like sundays, vacation, i never daven. my teacher said its better for me to not daven during school or ever if when im not home i dont daven. is taht true? |
| MODERATOR | Posted - 17 June 2003 8:21
It's better not to daven than daven not at home? No, that makesn o sense, I must not be understanding the quesiton. Can you please clarify? |
| yideleh | Posted - 17 June 2003 17:38
cookie, I had written a whole post for you to read, but I think it got lost somewhere so I'll try to remember what it was I had written. First of all, one thing you have to understand - Hashem is the One who cares the most about you. More than anyone in the whole wide world does. More than your best friend, more than your parents, and yes, even more than yourself. Like any person who really cares about you, He really likes to hear how you're doing. When you daven, it's like if you're speaking to Him. It's a real relationship, one that Hashem awaits to have with you. He wants you to come and tell Him, you know G-d, I'm having a really tough day. I need your help. Please, can you make it that other ppl don't get on my nerves so much, and if they do, help me react to them in the right way and not blow up at them. And you know what else G-d? I really really want my mother to agree to me going to camp this summer. Can you make her agree? Ppl wonder, how can I talk to G-d about the petty details of my life? He doesn't have time nor does He care to hear me complain about all this stuff. After all, G-d has better things to do... But does He really? He tells us quite clearly, no my child, you are wrong. I want to hear from you. I want to hear all the details. I want to hear from you what's on your mind, and I want you to ask me for help. That's what I'm here for. My most fervent wish is that you should have a relationship with me. Talk to me! People connect when they speak to eachother. People love having heart-to-heart conversations. It makes them feel closer. That is what tefillah has the power to accomplish, only with G-d. If we only realized this, we wouldn't run off at the idea of davening. I know of someone who was once stuck in a shopping mall around shkiah time and didn't know what to do for mincha. She decided to find a quiet spot and davened right there. Her mother thought she was a bit strange, but then she told her, Ma, if I have an appointment every day to speak to the King, and I know I am the king's daughter, and my father cares about me so much that He loves to hear from me, would I miss such an opportunity? That's the way she looked at it. As an opportunity. Relationships need working on. And a kesher with Hashem does too. I know it's very easy to get lazy when it comes to davening, but that's because we don't realize what we have. As per having difficulty with kavanah, just think that you're standing in front of Hashem and talking to Him, and just think of what you are saying. Work on one bracha at a time in shmonei esrei. If you know the meaning of the words, it makes it a lot easier to concentrate. It's very hard to get the right perspective at the beginning, but it's worth a try. Because the benefits at feeling that Hashem is always there for you no matter what, and that you can talk to Him whenever you feel like it are tremendous. Try it! |
| israel-phile gal | Posted - 17 June 2003 17:51
bruriah- try thinkking abt what u want 2 ask 4...i cur worried abt sem, ask 4 G-d 2 give u special assistance in that area...ne/t ur worried abt, ne/t u feel 4, daven & think abt that...often it's easier 2 daven w/ kavanah asking 4 s/t, than 2 daven w/ kavanah THANKING G-d 4 s/t... do u follow? gl 2 all! |
| Truth Seeker | Posted - 17 June 2003 17:51
Perhaps the teacher meant that once you start davening regularly sometimes, it becomes a form of 'neder' (vow)? (For a girl) At worst, all one would have to do is be matir neder and specify that it should not be considered a neder. It is a good practice in general: before one takes upon him or herself or starts any new practice to specify that it is 'b'li neder'. |
| israel-phile gal | Posted - 18 June 2003 0:22
wow yideleh- i needed 2 hear that, that was amazig, & totally inspiring & i'm printing it out (& addin g it 2 my collection of inspiring things) thank u SOOOOOO much! u inspire me! take care |
| bjgirl86 | Posted - 22 June 2003 20:08
nopes, she told me that if i dont daven when im at home, then i shouldnt daven at all in school or ever if im not going to do it all the time. her reason was that she said im only davening because im in school not because i really want to daven. is that true? |
| MODERATOR | Posted - 22 June 2003 20:15
I dont agree. There is nothgin that says you should only daven when you "really want to" whatever that means. As long as you are following the halachic guidelines of how to daven, such as the proper time, proper kavanah etc., your tefilos are valid. And a valid tefilah is a big asset to you. |
| bjgirl86 | Posted - 23 June 2003 2:54
ok great, i love davening, i always daven at the right time, with kavana, when i daven. its just something that i have to work on- always davening, but im glad to hear that im not actually sinning by not ALWAYS davening. |
| sara18 | Posted - 26 June 2003 0:08
u know? the whole concept of davening can seem as a big pain, cuz its this far fetched abstract thing, while u have 10000 other small things right here and now to do so why stop what im doing to daven? BUT my rabbi once told me s-thing that just changed my whole prospective on davening and i'd like to share it with you, he quotes rav shamshon refael Hirch saying that everything we do all day is NOTHING- u betzem are not doing anything. the only thing u actually DO is davening, sleep on this thought over night |
| Truth Seeker | Posted - 26 June 2003 17:59
June 26 Most of us have it backwards: davening as vehicle for getting what we want or need Truth: The needs and (R'L) suffering are for the purpose of causing us to recognize and cry out to Hashem "WE ARE IN THIS WORLD TO GAIN DAAS HASHEM...That is the greatest achievement..." - R' A. Miller, ZTL |
| bruriaheww | Posted - 06 August 2003 19:58
i wish i cud connect....i wud have someone to talk to... |
| who me?! | Posted - 07 August 2003 19:15
i know what it feels like to connect. i used to connect very well. i felt liek Hashem was honestly on the other end of the phone.... but now idk forsome reason i am numb to it i have no kavanah, i daven fast and outa major habit. i dont feel like He's there its as if he hung up on my face. what do i do now? i miss Him. |
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